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Добавлено: Ср авг 15, 2018 11:25 pm
Pawel Hertz
72 year-old man has come to my office referred from GP to cycling test because of dyspnea. Dyspnea was very mild. He was and still is very active man that used to cycle 60 km every other day and he runs and hike a lot… and so on and so forth. Looks younger than he really is. He insisted that he is sick and wanted to be sent to angiography “in order to clean arteries” He has no symptoms to angina, heart failure, has no murmur over heart and not any legs swelling neither now nor in the past. No hypertension, diabetes. He is non-smoker and never smoked. I took cycling test (beneath) and he kan 9,2 Mets that is 175 Wat and his pulse came up to 149/min. I have stopped test but he said that could go much more and was surprised that I stopped. I took from my own initiative eccocardiography. That was not ordered.
What should I do with this patient? Is he healthy. Nothing more to do ?

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Добавлено: Ср авг 15, 2018 11:33 pm
Pawel Hertz
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Добавлено: Ср авг 15, 2018 11:34 pm
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Добавлено: Ср авг 15, 2018 11:43 pm
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Добавлено: Ср авг 15, 2018 11:44 pm
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Добавлено: Ср авг 15, 2018 11:55 pm
Pawel Hertz
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Добавлено: Чт авг 16, 2018 12:16 am
Wojtek Guzowski
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Mild diastolic dysfunction I degree in respect with mitral inlow,
Is this longitudinal strain reliable?
TR++, Gr- < 35 mm Hg

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Добавлено: Чт авг 16, 2018 7:16 am
sokolov166
Its seem to me- you should do nothing. His heart looks good and 175w :P ? dont find black cat in dark room (when it absent in here)/
is there any suprise :P

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Добавлено: Чт авг 16, 2018 8:05 am
Pawel Hertz
I decidet to trust him and said to myself: "lets take a lab. tests first, if ok. I quit" I took troponin, ProBNP, D-Dimer 18.07.2018 and had agreement with him that on the day after I will ring him up... Should I do something after results

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Добавлено: Чт авг 16, 2018 8:31 am
Pawel Hertz
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Ср авг 15, 2018 11:34 pm
xyz
Mild diastolic dysfunction I degree in respect with mitral inlow,
Is this longitudinal strain reliable?
TR++, Gr- < 35 mm Hg
I had assessed that diastolic function was ok, but this TR gradient in such a god trained man ??

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Добавлено: Чт авг 16, 2018 10:06 am
Wojtek Guzowski
Gradient of tricuspid /systolic peak is under 35 mm Hg, the risk is moderate,rather

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Добавлено: Чт авг 16, 2018 10:17 am
Wojtek Guzowski
Pawel Hertz писал(а):
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Pawel Hertz писал(а):
Ср авг 15, 2018 11:34 pm
xyz
Mild diastolic dysfunction I degree in respect with mitral inlow,
Is this longitudinal strain reliable?
TR++, Gr- < 35 mm Hg
I had assessed that diastolic function was ok, but this TR gradient in such a god trained man ??

Don't mind,but you loaded one of a mitral inflow rather tendencious,to measure,with respect to you,Pawel

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Добавлено: Чт авг 16, 2018 5:20 pm
Pawel Hertz
After lab. results I called him on and next step was ulstrasound of the legs veins.

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Добавлено: Чт авг 16, 2018 5:23 pm
Pawel Hertz
In my belief it is not only in right femoral but also thrombus in right tibialis posterior vein too

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Добавлено: Чт авг 16, 2018 5:50 pm
AOkhotin
Do you monitor SpO2 during stress test?